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By kjfitz @ 2005-06-27 14:51:05
The Naval Support Activity located in Agnano was shaken by a sizable earthquake in August 1982. Damage resulted to the infrastructure of the base and despite the large amount of money spent on repairs, it was decided that the Navy community in Naples was in desperate need of new facilities. Project Pronto was planned to move all operational and support facilities out of Agnano to a 250 acre site near Capua, Italy. The project ended in 1988 when the US Congress concluded it was too expensive and when the Italian Ministry of Defense Purchase of site fell through. In 1990 the decision was made to locate and build the operational aspect of the community in Capodichino, site of the civilian airport which has shared its' runways with the US Navy for many years. Additionally, a support site which would consist of housing, schools and all aspects of community support would be built in the town of Gricignano, about 15 miles north of Capodichino.
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@ 2005-09-08 18:33:09
The horseshoe shaped building in the lower left of the thumbnail was my Elementary / Middle School from '70 to '73. Never thought it unusual at the time to have Marines in snadbag enplacements with big machine guns on the school grounds.
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@ 2005-09-08 18:42:26
Yeah, it is odd. My daughter was born at the old hospital, up the hill from the schools and the exchange/commissary.
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@ 2006-01-11 09:07:13
What ever happened to Humpty Dumpty?
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@ 2006-01-11 09:51:44
Ha! and her 'campfire girls?' I still have a 8x11 that they gave away as a booby prize at the school's Halloween Festival.
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@ 2007-02-09 10:51:51
It is said that Humpty was able to support her children by "working" with the sailors off the wall.
My grandfather asked me about Humpty in the 1980s from when he visited Naples in the 1950s.
Another one of the campfire girls was called commisary Mary. The Campfire girls were on Viale Kennedy (down from NATO Base at Bagnoli, and along via Agnano agli Astroni which via scarfoglio ran into. Humpty's preferred site was along the wall on Via agnano agli astroni.
I'd love to see a copy of that photo posted!
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@ 2008-03-02 17:56:29
Wow! I know it's been a a couple of years since kjfitz posted about the pic but I would so love to see that. Humpty Dumpty! Man that brings back memories.
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@ 2008-03-18 16:54:59
I was just in Naples and made it a point to take my family by the old hospital where my son was born in 1976. The base is indeed closed and abandoned, the old theatre is an Italian night club. No signs of Humpty!
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@ 2009-12-15 11:29:52
I can confirm Humpty was working in 1995 when I was living there.
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@ 2009-12-31 20:07:43
The original Humpty Dumpty died in 1988 after being hit by a truck.
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@ 2010-01-15 10:04:26
Nah, Humpty-Dumpty was still there in '91-'94 when I was there. Don't know if she/he was the original one but she/he was really old and quite foul mouthed.
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@ 2010-01-15 10:05:58
Where is the new base in Gricignano? My three years in Naples were very good ones. Challenging in some ways but I enjoyed it.
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@ 2010-01-25 12:25:42
The "former" NSA Naples had an even older "former" manifestation which was in Naples rather than Agnano. It was
on the hill overlooking Possillipo on one side, and the Bay of Naples on the other (both were visible from the roof of the hospital). I served in the Naval Hospital there 1962-1964. The NavSuppAct was located on Via Michaelangelo da Caravaggio. The compound, made up of about five high-rise buildings, was down the hill from the hospital. All of the buildings have reverted to what they were before the Navy took them over: apartment houses. This is the former former NavSuppAct 510 -
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&t=k&ll=40.83402491472504,14.20967012643814&z=20 .

The Hospital was on Via Manzoni, just a few switch-backs up the hill, and it can be seen at this location:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&t=k&ll=40.83253533467,14.211612045764923&z=20

Note the soccer fields across the street from the old hospital building. These are called the "Campi Americani" or

American Fields. When I went looking for the building when google maps first came out, I put a marker on the
NavSuppAct spot, and got several respsonses, mostly from Italians who lived there. One said that these were'nt Navy
buildings, but he did some investigating and indeed, these are they. He now knows why the soccer fields are called "the
Americal fields."
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@ 2010-03-28 16:23:02
The sandbags must have come in after I left. Attended the old Forrest Sherman Elementary school in '69 off of Via Manzoni, then we moved to the horseshoe next to NSA for my 6th grade year in '70. Recess on the rooftop was interesting.
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@ 2010-06-16 17:51:04
man, i havent thought about humpty in 26 yrs. what a flashback, i was there from 82-84 and still remember seeing her on that wall lol they dont make legends like that anymore lol
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@ 2010-07-15 06:01:22
was there from 88 top 92 and Humpty was there. I even bought a pink flag that says I saw humpty dumpty and there's a pic of her sitting on that wall...that's right, they sold souveniers...lol
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@ 2011-02-15 13:01:43
Thanks to timleary for the google maps link to the hospital. In 4th grade I had an attractive young teacher who used to send me over to the hospital at recess, with notes for a medical corpsman she was interested in. Must have been about 1960.
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@ 2011-02-22 21:30:55
Sheesh, I was one of the last (if not the last) US service member to leave the base at Agnano and close / lock up the gates before it was handed over to the Italians.

It was the summer of 2005 and a group of us from security at NSA Capodichino were sent over to Agnano for about two weeks to sanitize the base and close up the last building that was occupied on the base - the old multistory security building.

I still remember how amazing it was to walk around the the base when everyone was gone, knowing that this base was now being shut down forever. Some good times were had on that base before it was closed and it was one of the best bases to work out of. In the matter of 2 years it went from being the base that held the commissary, NEX, stores, etc. to absolutely nothing when Gricignano got finished.

I wonder what happened to it since, last time I drove by in 2007 it was still unoccupied and run down.
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@ 2011-05-14 05:45:30
Correction to the original story... the major tremmor that hit was not August of '82, but October of '83... that's when Pozzuoli became deserted and everyone emptied out to Pinetamare.
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@ 2011-06-22 10:21:06

just looked at goole street views of the entrance to AFSOUTH, front of ushaped building, apartment where i lived in pisciarelli(behind old commisary) bars right off post where we used to hang (and buy chit books). Even found the front of Pizzacato in naples. Amazing. whas ther from jan 69 to sept 70. worked in proto mostly comm center, was in the army
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@ 2011-11-24 15:31:28
Lived there 67-70. 64 Via Petrarca Scala A apt 5. The winding road built on stilts. Anybody remember?
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@ 2012-02-13 21:19:55
Incredible to see so many memories come back after reading the posts. I was at AFSOUTH from 70 - 75. Worked in the Plans and Policy Division. Had an apartment just behind NSA on Pisciarelli. What a time. Had great times at Carney Park, the club at AFSOUTH, etc. Yep, I remember the chit books well. Sold gas, cigarettes, and chits for booze. Drove an old 63 VW. It was a time of my life that I sure miss. I still stay in touch with friends made so many years ago in Naples. Took night classes at the University of Maryland extension program, ate lots of great pizza. It was an onsite 5 year history lesson.

What a great time.
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@ 2012-03-23 13:27:31
I was Navy stationed at good 'ol NSA Naples from summer of 1978 to the summer of 1980. I loved it there and miss it, but I am very suprised it was moved, how sad. I remember driving past humpty dumpty a few times, never stopped for her! lol

I'm surprised to see the theater is now a club. I saw lots of movies there. There was a restaurant in the basement of the admin building and I remember a restaurant down by the exchange.

Did anyone eat at Bagnoli Joes? I loved it. That was where I had my first open fire Italian pizza and fried calamari. I loved both. My favorite think (spaghetti carbonara) I don't even see in stateside Italian restaurants. I would love to have that again. After so many years I can almost remember what it tastes like.

And what about the tange? Remember paying 500 lira toll? I drove it every day back and forth to work. I shared a hose in Lago Patria I think is how it's spelled with some guys at work. I was just a seaman at my first duty station but I will NEVER forget Naples and where I worked in the MMSRC CTF 67. I can still remember a lot of the names of people I worked with it left such an impression.

And dont forget gitoni's for the phones. I hear they use the Euro for everything now and no more lira. Very sad.

Is there still a base at AFSOUTH? They had a movie theater too and an international type exchange and a chow hall too. I'm sure after 32 years it would all look different to me now but I would love to go back some day. I want to ride one of those electric buses again if they still have them. I hope they do!

And one of the most fun places was Edenlandia, any of you ever go to that amusement park? There was so much to do with no tv/internet/cells phones way back then. A simple time and place that probably doesnt exist anymore.

A friend of mine live at those apartments behind NSA in 1978. We would walk a path between NSA and the school to get there, everyone called it Ho Chi Min trail. It was dark and kinda scary at night.

Do they still sell gas coupons to the military there? We needed those for cheap gas.

Such good times it almost brings a tear to my eye when I think of it.
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@ 2012-03-23 13:32:22
Sorry about all the misspellings and typos in my last post. I was just thinking about Carney park, anyone know if they still have the drive in theater and every thing else?

sign me as just a former seaman that misses the NSA of the late 70's/early 80's
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@ 2012-04-14 09:31:57
I was stationed there (USNRMC at the top of the hill in Agnano) from mid 77 - Nov 79 and other than having dificulty with "la macchina" we loved it. Only 1 or 2 American neighbors out in Giugliano (Parco Mele) about a mile (or less) inland from Via Domiziana and family members in Rome and Calabria, I learned how to really be Italian. Our friends from Pozzuoli taught us so much about local history, customs and cuisine.

When I returned (Med Cruise on USS D.D. Eisenhower) in 1990, all had changed so much. I could not find our neighbors and Pozzuoli was scarred to the point of tears for those wonderful people who had taken us in as "famiglia". Our "bucket list" includes a return together to our first home as a married couple.
VIVA ITALIA!

Richard (Riccardo) / Kathy (Katia) Mondak
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@ 2012-06-15 15:40:43
I've got a photo of "Humpty Dumpty" at the below link. I purchased it at the Photo Store on NSA Naples sometime between 1985 & 1987 while I was stationed there. I was a USAF SSgt working at the SRCLD at Lago Patria in the ATE Section with Army SFC James J. Williams and SSgt Jackson. I can't remember "Jacks" real first name. We later had an Italian Electrical Engineer come to work in our shop by the name of Gian Luca Floris. Bagnoli Joe's was great great food. I lived in the Combined barracks between AFSouth and NSA. I've got a LOT of good memories from my tour in Naples (none which include Humpty Dumpty though).

http://www.dacoleman.com/images/Italy/slides/Humpty%20Dumpty,%20Naples%20Italy,%201985-1987,%2001.html#picttop

If you go "up a level" at the above link you can see the other photos from the Naples area & Italy......

David A. Coleman
Retired MSgt, USAF 1982-2002
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@ 2012-09-22 01:43:58
Lived for a few months in Pisciarelli in 1977, with brother and sister in law, they had a baby girl who was born at the hospital way up on that hill. It was a long walk up ther especially pushing a stroller-eventually one of us had to carry the kid and the other pushed the empty stroller! And we took the Ho Chi Minh trail get there, we had to traverse a deep ditch on that walk. Brother stationed there with NSA. Remember going to Carney Park, Edenlandia, having REAL pizza. I worked briefly at the CPO club restaurant. That baby girl is now 35 years old! Would love to go back and see it all again....my brother's son spent some time in Naples but didn't get to see where his sister was born-he was also in the Navy...
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@ 2012-10-23 19:52:58
I was stationed in AfSouth when Humpty died - there was a new large, blonde hooker on the wall within 2 days of her death. The local lore was that even the other Humpty was not the original. That the 'title' was so profitable, it always got 'assumed' when an old one passed away or quit.
BTW, if you are on Facebook, there is a Group for folks who went to and loved the Flamingo Club in AFSOUTH. Easy search to find it.
Dianne (Cosner)
USN - Afsouth 87-89
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@ 2012-12-14 08:58:44
I think I have a photo of Humpty Dumpty. It was my dads and he was stationed in Naples in the early 70's. I did a search to see if I can find out about this old photo. I remember being told as a kid that it was humpty dumpty. So when I was searching, I came across these forums.
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@ 2013-02-20 19:51:02
OMG...this is awesome. We were stationed there from 86'-89. I can't believe the old hospital is no more. wow. So sad. That humpty picture is PERFECT !!! That is exactly who we would see when we passed there. Laughed out loud !! Was able to take my son to Italy, for High School grad present/ trip in 2011. and got to show him where we lived on Via Manzoni, spouse was respiratory therapy and had to be within 20 min of hospital , not Pinetamare. So we got an apartment in a Villa , from the leaving Pastor , in a sweet location with a view of the bay. Unreal. Never did get a phone, and no central heat...but great memories. Did not go by the base ( turns out it was GONE) because did not rent a car for the trip. Did get him hooked on Mozzarella di Bufala tho !! I can't imagine even where this new hospital is at. The one guy was right...everything was in one place. We went to the gym after work ( because one road in and out...PACKED after work ) and we were at the Movie theater watching Moonstruck , when they bombed the USO downtown....had to zoom right up to the hospital, so he could be avail. for the injured . Wow....so vivid memories after all this time. Hope to go back ....
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@ 2013-06-16 07:59:14
Does anyone know if the movie theater at Afsouth is still there? I'm going back to the 70's. Also, is base housing still way out at, I think it was called Lago Patria?
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@ 2013-07-20 20:15:27
i was stationed at agnano from 1976 -1979,and had the best time of my life in those 2 plus years in naples.when i first got there in 76",there were no rooms at the barracks in agnano,so the navy put us up,in a hotel called the domitiana hotel.it was right across from edenlandia amusement park,where we always had a great time when we went there. this year,i decided that i was going to go back there,to relive old times,and to go to some of the great places in naples.we stayed three nights at the domitiana hotel.the hotel had changed a little bit,but i still enjoyed it .edendlandia had just closed its door due to hard economic times.next we got a taxi,to take my wife and i to agnano,and when we got there,i was shocked to see that it had been shut down,and i was so saddened by this .taxi driver said it had been shut down for two years,but turns out longer.still got some some pictures of the old guard gates,where some of my marine friends stood guard duty,and of the security building where i worked,and of the hospital,up on the hill.had so many great memories of this place,humpty dumpty,and luiegy,who i would sell my cartons of ciggarettes every month to.all in all i had a great time in naples,and theses places will always have place in my heart.
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@ 2013-08-20 19:29:47
Noooo! Edenlandia closed? I loved that place :(
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@ 2013-09-19 14:21:01
GREAT SITE!!

I was with the Navy at AFSouth from '84 to '89. Lived in Castelvolturno, out past the Pinetamare Towers and wish I was still there. I used to get pizza from Bagnoli Joes, had propane delivered to my villa from a guy named "Bombola Eddie" and would always bitch about getting stuck in "Squeeze Alley" off the Tange.

Some good memories.
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@ 2013-09-29 08:31:49
I remember being stationed here from 1995 - 1998. I worked at the Adm building and lived in the barracks across the street. I remember a little restaurant that you'd come out the Marine gate and cross the street to get to. It had the best Spaghetti alla Carbonara there. I wonder if it still exists.
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@ 2013-11-17 22:39:45
WOW! What an amazing find! I went to Forrest Sherman High School from 1972-1976, graduated in 1976. My dad was USN Cmdr & stationed at the NATO base. There is a group of us on a Face Book group called FSHS. I'm in the Seattle area if anyone is here. I'm on FB too. Carey J. Tibbetts
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@ 2014-03-17 16:37:48
I went to Forest Sherman from 1978 to 1981, when it was still an elementary school. We are heading back in two weeks. Does anyone know where the restaurant only known to us as "Pasquale's" is? It was near the Ippodromo in Agnano. I seriously have no idea what the actual name of the restaurant was. I totally remember humpty dumpty. We'd see her every day from the bus on the way to school. What an amazing thing to find this thread! Such formative years. Even though I've got zero actual italian ancestral heritage, our time there made my heart Italian. I wear my Neapolitan accent with pride, even when looked down upon by 'northerners'.
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@ 2014-03-28 08:32:28
This brings back memories -My dad was stationed at Naples-we came up from base at sicily where we were for two years. I was at the horseshoe school from 1973 thru 1976-we lived off base due to my dad being dod -so we lived up on the hill-between via posillipo and via petraca-rode the school bus to school. I definitaly remember humpty!
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@ 2014-08-18 17:44:37
This is an awesome find for me. So many memories. I lived in Naples from 92-94. I am Brazilian and when I moved there I did not speak Italian or English, only Portuguese. My mom and aunt lived there for work. She met my step dad who was stationed there. I remember going to the elementary school from 4th to 6th grade. My first day of school I went with a piece of paper that said my name is Rafael and I don't speak English. Lol. Crazy times. I learned Italian first because it was close to Portuguese, then English. I lived in a few places I remember a place north of the base up on the hill past the hospital. Also humpy dumpty. For some reason lots of hookers not just her. I remember the towers. That's the place I first learned about Halloween. I couldn't even say trick or treat. Huge party there. I couldn't believe people gave candy away like that. I remember Inderlandia, went there lots of time. And some dog and horse tracks, even won money because I liked their names. Only bet a few liras. My aunt had an Italian boyfriend so we had a personal Italian tour guide. I went to so many places. I used to love Pompeii. Went to Florence on a school trip, that was amazing. I used to play soccer and baseball in leagues at carney park. Used to go to the pool there on summers. Almost drowned one year and no one noticed. Lol. I remember hating the pizzas. But I know how wrong I was. I wish I had real pizza and food like that now. The last place I remember living was in aversa. It was a new complex at the time. We were one of the first families to move there. It was 4 buildings gated in, about 5 or 6 floors. I only remember the first and last name of one of my friends. His name was Stephen Hughes. Which was also his dad's name who was stationed there. The rest of the gang I only remember their first names, Eduardo (pucho), Matt, Vanessa ( she was my on and off girlfriend. I tried to search for Stephen several times on Facebook in hopes I could find the rest of the gang but no luck. We moved to the US in November of 94. My step dad was from south Mississippi. So he chose to go home. I have lived here ever since. In 2005 hurricane Katrina destroyed every thing we had. Some of the most priceless things to me. Like all the photos and things from Italy. It's extremely hard for me to remember any thing now from memory. Just know names of things and places, but no visual to revert to. But I miss those times. I always say I'm gonna go back and visit. I am 32 now and am married with 2 kids. But I'm just now learning that mostly everything is gone as I new it. Would any one happened to know the name of the apartment complex in aversa? Or any information on my friends. Lol. I know it's a long shot but hey. It was great reading all your stories even the ones before my time. I will always love that place.
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@ 2014-11-11 22:06:45
If you want a pic of Humpty Dumpty, go to my Facebook page: Gail Bassett Wylie. I have 3 Naples albums there, 1 for each of our 3 yrs ~ '74-'77 and they are "Public." Humpty is there in all her glory.
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@ 2014-11-12 19:23:22
I was born in the old hospital on Manzoni. I also went to the old elementary school across the street from the hospital. Later when we got stationed in Naples again, I went to Forrest Sherman H.S. I it had the most spectacular view front the second and third floors. A panorama that some people dream of. I remember the old American park and when Carney park was being built. Carney park had everything. Some of my most memorable memories are from there. All the great games and picnics family and friends. I graduated in 75. 4th of July at the park was amazing. Afsouth beach was great too. Not like the beached here. Miss those days.