Parabellum
05/07/06 05:21 PM
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Anyone know how to get this image to slide down a little bit more?
http://local.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&...;scene=842006
I tried changing directions, clicking on diagonal thumbs, adding a pushpin, resizing the window, and crossing my fingers, but nothing worked.
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Edited by nic (11/13/06 06:34 PM)
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kjfitz
05/07/06 05:39 PM
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There is some cases where I see that the current image plate is displayed with a broad band of black along one edge indicating that somehow I've overshot the edge. But I can't for the life of me reproduce it. I've found a few images along the edge that i can't get to either. I especially hate it when the image is under the direction and zoom controls.
kjfitz
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Parabellum
05/07/06 07:31 PM
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Yeah, it's a real bummer when the image you want is *there*, but obscured.
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AlbinoFlea
05/08/06 04:53 PM
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With a little patience, you can track down and piece together the individual image tiles that compose the scene in BE view. For your shot the bulk of the plane is here:
http://c0.p6.oblique.tiles.virtualearth.net/tiles/o02301231130-6710-20-4.jpeg?g=20
Then there's a bit to the right:
http://c1.p6.oblique.tiles.virtualearth.net/tiles/o02301231130-6710-20-5.jpeg?g=20
and a sliver at the bottom:
http://c0.p6.oblique.tiles.virtualearth.net/tiles/o02301231130-6710-20-12.jpeg?g=20
Then to make a nice square to edit from, add this:
http://c1.p6.oblique.tiles.virtualearth.net/tiles/o02301231130-6710-20-13.jpeg?g=20
There are several ways to get this information, but I usually use the Images --> View Image Information function on the Web Developer extension for Firefox, by Chris Pederick, which you can get here:
https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=60
If you live for this kind of thing, you can also slog through the Virtual Earth Standard Control Software Development Kit:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/VEMCSDK/HTML/Introduction.asp
I too have come across some images similar to what kjfitz describes that have black bands at the top or bottom... I'm assuming that these images were not the same size that most of the oblique images are and need some padding to fit into the format that the BE tiles are presented in, thus the extra black.
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Parabellum
05/08/06 06:45 PM
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Jeez Flea, I thought I was being super-crafty by clicking View->Source in hopes of finding the tiles in the HTML. {8^0
Did I mention I'm a ditch digger by trade?
Thanks for the tiles though. Maybe I'll try to cobble them together into something presentable.
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AlbinoFlea
05/08/06 07:11 PM
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Jeez Flea, I thought I was being super-crafty by clicking View->Source in hopes of finding the tiles in the HTML.
Actually, that's the first thing I did when faced with this... damn Javascript obscures all the interesting stuff stuff though. 
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romulusnr
05/11/06 03:44 PM
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Changing directions wouldn't have worked as those appear to be taken at different times (probably four cameras mounted on whatever aircraft they use). By the time the photographing aircraft took a picture of the same scene at the other angles, this plane had moved on.
I was able to get a clear image of the plane by using the EditCSS extension in Firefox, and make it so the opacity of the top div is 00 (actually I ended up invalidating the entire CSS, but I got the desired result, so whatever  ).
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Parabellum
05/11/06 08:22 PM
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Changing directions wouldn't have worked as those appear to be taken at different times
This is true in this case, but I have seen a number of instances of direction/time overlap where LL seems to choose a particular shot over another in some certain instance. Try setting a pushpin on a moving target, then rotate through all the points of the compass. Sometimes you'll come back to the target, sometimes you won't. Sometimes you'll get a BETTER view of the target.
This quirk is why I copy and paste the URL of a promising view BEFORE I start trying to improve on it. That lesson was learned the hard way. 
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I was able to get a clear image of the plane by using the EditCSS extension in Firefox, and make it so the opacity of the top div is 00 (actually I ended up invalidating the entire CSS, but I got the desired result, so whatever
Didn't I mention I'm a ditch digger by trade?
Mods, can we get a new Graemlin with a 'Whoosh' going over his little yellow head?
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AlbinoFlea
05/11/06 09:59 PM
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romulusnr's CSS hack is pretty clever. I hadn't thought of going at it from that angle.
From what I've seen, especially from the World Bank Protest images in Washington DC, I'd say the planes shoot two of the opposing shots simultanouesly, either E-W or N-S, then come back and do the others later, sometimes same day, other times much later. This would also explain why for some areas there are only one pair of views.
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Try setting a pushpin on a moving target, then rotate through all the points of the compass. Sometimes you'll come back to the target, sometimes you won't. Sometimes you'll get a BETTER view of the target.
This scene-spinning is great when it works out, although at times maddeningly disorienting. I've found some areas where overlap is such that the same building can be seen from the same direction in four different views. I guess sometimes they don't manage to fly quite to grid.
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